tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post7490230571679525570..comments2023-05-04T03:37:04.200-07:00Comments on The Rouge Wave: Rep: To Have and to Have NotJulie Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-83713731762293595722008-12-24T23:19:00.000-08:002008-12-24T23:19:00.000-08:00@PJ: It's true. It's nearly impossible to get anyt...@PJ: It's true. It's nearly impossible to get anything moving without a very good manager or agent. Getting representation that believes in you -- for the long run, not just one sale -- is actually the most challenging part of the process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-82708696035341596232008-12-22T06:28:00.000-08:002008-12-22T06:28:00.000-08:00It seems to me the only thing guaranteed in Hollyw...It seems to me the only thing guaranteed in Hollywood is there are no guarantees. I know a guy who is sitting on the New York Times best seller list for the third time. Two of his books were optioned for film and he's had some A-list heavyweights--and I am serious about the talent level that got involved. But for some reason or another, both projects ended up as fodder for the big kabosh! <BR/><BR/>So it seems like success has a lot to do with generating terrific material, and then being very lucky with getting it into the rights hands at exactly the right time. <BR/><BR/>And, by the way, I can't remember the name of the writer, but he wrote a ditty on one of the striking blogs last year. This guy had sold three films -- I think, and and then nothing for a couple of years. The point being, where I live, people (who aren't remotely close to the industry) feel that once you're in, you're in! This guy made the point that you have to prove yourself over and over again. Nothing is given, nothing is free. <BR/><BR/>Never surrender. Never give up!Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08031448536320362694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-25337843404085792532008-12-21T16:00:00.000-08:002008-12-21T16:00:00.000-08:00Having a bad rep is worse than having no rep. Trus...Having a bad rep is worse than having no rep. Trust me on this, boys and girls.PJ McIlvainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15496990000619350774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-25817105524325913142008-12-21T14:14:00.000-08:002008-12-21T14:14:00.000-08:00Julie, Julie, Julie - of course I didn't think tha...Julie, Julie, Julie - of course I didn't think that was 35 drafts for one producer! I know you're smarter than that! :p<BR/><BR/>I'm not surprised. The script I recently placed with went through ten drafts, including a page one rewrite. (It was sort of a special case, though, being that the page one rewrite came after a five-year screenwriting hiatus).Luzidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862297674415830596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-58021937738512133472008-12-21T03:36:00.000-08:002008-12-21T03:36:00.000-08:00No, no, no, no, no. I have apparently been unclear...No, no, no, no, no. I have apparently been unclear. We did not do 35 drafts for one producer - what do you take me for, anyway? I rarely get cranky but that level of under estimating my smarts - well, that smarts! Geez! <BR/><BR/>That draft, from day one to today, 3 years later - after working with a rep, various producers AND ON OUR OWN is probably 35 drafts away from our very first draft. My point is that you'd be so shocked and surprised how many drafts a script can go through as it journeys toward a hopeful sale.Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-83747780409822718502008-12-20T14:29:00.000-08:002008-12-20T14:29:00.000-08:00Thanks for your thoughts, Anonymous. They make sen...Thanks for your thoughts, Anonymous. They make sense. I'm going to play it as it lays.Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-55795759958526374972008-12-20T11:45:00.000-08:002008-12-20T11:45:00.000-08:00It seems like a big mistake to not get a rep for y...It seems like a big mistake to not get a rep for your new spec.<BR/><BR/>If the spec doesn't sell but is well received, you need a rep to get you in there for assignments. You can't do that yourself with any degree of efficiency. <BR/><BR/>So you're "saving" the ten percent of a theoretical sale, and giving up someone to help you get a job in case it doesn't.<BR/><BR/>Because if you take it out and it doesn't sell, you're going to have a very hard time convincing a rep to take you on with an old spec that everyone's read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-42512759808124379272008-12-20T01:41:00.000-08:002008-12-20T01:41:00.000-08:00I disagree Matt - of course you want a rep who wan...I disagree Matt - of course you want a rep who wants to sell the material - otherwise what is the motivation? What are we all doing here? The rep has to earn a living. You don't have to sell a spec to get assignment work (though it helps and vastly so) but the brass ring is not holding your creative hands for years - it's getting your material traded for cash dollars.Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-85338006939794657952008-12-20T00:36:00.000-08:002008-12-20T00:36:00.000-08:00You want a rep who couldn't care less if the spec ...You want a rep who couldn't care less if the spec sells -- she should be in it for the long run, because you certainly don't need to sell anything to get an assignment or a rewrite.Jon and Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10387906860079789219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-78601880433777030192008-12-19T12:59:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:59:00.000-08:00That's a reasonable excuse--hosting your own party...That's a reasonable excuse--hosting your own party is acceptable.<BR/><BR/>We do these things about for times a year: winter, spring, summer, and fall. maybe next time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-83695786418003913122008-12-19T12:34:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:34:00.000-08:00Ack! Caught me red handed. I can't go. I'll rsvp l...Ack! Caught me red handed. I can't go. I'll rsvp like a good girl. I have my own wee little party shenanigans planned for that night and I'm hosting!!Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-17553002155832140592008-12-19T12:32:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:32:00.000-08:00Speaking of being pro-active, you viewed, but did ...Speaking of being pro-active, you viewed, but did not respond to our party invite...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-32521892755405928252008-12-19T12:21:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:21:00.000-08:00@Matt - it's the lingua franca my friend. Get used...@Matt - it's the lingua franca my friend. Get used to it. <BR/><BR/>@Anonymous - that can work for some people. I neither condone or condemn self-marketing. For every rule or paradigm, there are exceptions. Being proactive is a good thing, whatever your methodology.Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-60672316334077414392008-12-19T12:16:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:16:00.000-08:00Using "rep" to mean representation and representat...Using "rep" to mean representation and representative is really confusing.Jon and Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10387906860079789219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-81734189412959018852008-12-19T12:03:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:03:00.000-08:00Hello Julie,It's the biggest joke out there to fin...Hello Julie,<BR/><BR/>It's the biggest joke out there to find a manager.<BR/><BR/>Cinema is changing.<BR/><BR/>Here is a Christmas gift to your readers.<BR/><BR/>*********GIFT*****************<BR/><BR/>Listen up.<BR/><BR/>If Julie and her company or other pros enjoyed reading you script and gave your an excellent report card, then you have a good start.<BR/> <BR/>Next, get very unique web page to market the script.<BR/><BR/>Your web page has to controversial and enticing. And yes you have to post your scripts online so the "Gods" can sneak a peek. Just <BR/>let them discover you.<BR/><BR/>I heard of an artist who wrote a modern version of "American Gigolo" screenplay with a Robin Hood twist to it. His webpage is very entertaining/controvesial and yes the entire screenplay is posted there. Mark my word, that script will be optioned soon.<BR/><BR/>Now as Julie said, get back to work. <BR/><BR/>Just apply the gift I just gave you.<BR/><BR/>BAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-2158857369021913842008-12-19T11:34:00.000-08:002008-12-19T11:34:00.000-08:00Thanks. I appreciate the down-to-earth insights y...Thanks. I appreciate the down-to-earth insights you share. I kinda figure if I keep my focus on my goals now of writing the best scripts I can the rest will come when it's appropriate.meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07383192607366785499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-81319148394057972982008-12-19T11:27:00.000-08:002008-12-19T11:27:00.000-08:00Goddamn straight, J.J.Goddamn straight, J.J.Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-19335741807507870792008-12-19T10:06:00.000-08:002008-12-19T10:06:00.000-08:00I'll only add this: my friend, who has quite the r...I'll only add this: my friend, who has quite the resume, no less than five hit shows under her belt (and by "hit" I mean HIT--one is currently running on ABC right now, though she was brought on board as a consultant), a couple of movies, has directed, produced, and won an Emmy (at least one) and a WGA award, and has been nominated several times for other awards...<BR/><BR/>She has a TV, film, and book agent, and takes meetings virtually everyday--and is being courted by one of the two two agencies in town (she's with another agency)--and still hasn't sold anything in a year...<BR/><BR/>So, folks, no sales with or without an agent happens to the best of 'em.<BR/><BR/>Me? I just had a film fall apart after one of leads dropped out and took a piece of the financing with her. And, no, I don't have an agent of manager--mine dropped me before the strike last year.<BR/><BR/>In this town it's tough to make a buck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com