tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post1857699631263734605..comments2023-05-04T03:37:04.200-07:00Comments on The Rouge Wave: Writing a Logline SucksJulie Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-46622259106527011962009-01-22T07:50:00.000-08:002009-01-22T07:50:00.000-08:00@Belzecue--love the visual@uzid--I agree. I enjoy ...@Belzecue--love the visual<BR/><BR/>@uzid--I agree. I enjoy pulling different concepts into my own blueprint.<BR/><BR/>Another thing that's useful to me (I think I saw the idea in Blake Snyder's or Trottier's book) is to imagine the movie poster. Some of the taglines on movie posters aren't sufficient by themselves to be a logline. You really need the picture to get it BUT I use that visualization--an image and pithy line to create a exact and concise logline. (This method also helps me create a working title). I have a hard time writing if I don't have a title and logline to begin with because it keeps me on track. (And I am not a list maker but I love them for writing).<BR/><BR/>Here's the way I look at it--create that logline that wows and then hopefully they'll read it and say to everyone else "It's complex and full of nuance and detail and ...is far, far above simplistic pablum and defies a brief overview!"<BR/><BR/>;)meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07383192607366785499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-76910972200542172592009-01-21T20:27:00.000-08:002009-01-21T20:27:00.000-08:00@ Julie:LOL! That's pretty much what I do anyway -...@ Julie:<BR/><BR/>LOL! That's pretty much what I do anyway -- for example, I merged Blake's beat sheet with my own sequence structure adapted from Gulino.<BR/><BR/>It's actually quite fun to massage the different concepts into a working model. : )Luzidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862297674415830596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-9178305875603087932009-01-21T19:42:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:42:00.000-08:00@Belzecue - beautifully put :) @Luzid - see, what ...@Belzecue - beautifully put :) <BR/><BR/>@Luzid - see, what you have to do is mash up all the terms you hear, practice executing them again and again and soon, you'll realize they all mean the same basic thing. It's really not rocket science. It just takes time. :)Julie Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690487940378619749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-10652729244641889212009-01-21T19:06:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:06:00.000-08:00Think of an Egyptian pyramid. Massive. Heavy. End...Think of an Egyptian pyramid. Massive. Heavy. Enduring and steadfast.<BR/><BR/>Think about the very top apex of that pyramid. Small. Wedge shaped. Pointy.<BR/><BR/>The apex is your logline. It's the tiny bit that defines the whole (fractal-like). It's the tip of the iceberg.<BR/><BR/>Keep thinking about that massive, hulking pyramid... and flip it upside down in your mind, so now the pyramid is supported entirely by its apex... balancing there, with all its crushing weight bearing down on a tiny triangular point.<BR/><BR/>THAT'S how important your logline is.Belzecuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11947687721478725802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-68941576534045596582009-01-21T17:57:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:57:00.000-08:00This feels like another example of the confusion o...This feels like another example of the confusion of terms so prevalent among gurus and teachers.<BR/><BR/>Some say a script has 3 acts, with the second act broken into two equal halves by the midpoint (I agree). Some say it's four acts.<BR/><BR/>Some call the catalyst a pinch, or an inciting incident, or a dilemma.<BR/><BR/>Some call a logline as you decribe it here a tagline. Some call what you define as a premise line a logline.<BR/><BR/>On the latter, last week I asked a professional screenwriter (who has literally made millions off his specs and has two separate movies in production as we speak) if I could share my logline for a project I'm about to rewrite. He really liked the logline... and never called it a premise line. He knew it was a logline. One sentence, but longer than what you suggest as a logline.<BR/><BR/>So, you can see how newbies will get confused by the terminology.<BR/><BR/>As far as writing the logline AFTER the script -- never again. I've found that crafting it beforehand is invaluable to writing a great story, and (along with outlining) cutting off a couple of drafts, easy.Luzidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862297674415830596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8496585120938599514.post-82924852842673729992009-01-21T11:32:00.000-08:002009-01-21T11:32:00.000-08:00Julie - Loved the post and the lesson.I always tho...Julie - Loved the post and the lesson.<BR/><BR/>I always thought the logline would be better done after the script, but somewhere along the line I was led to believe it was part of the pre-process. Or maybe I twisted it. Over the last year or so I've read so many screenwriting rules I'm afraid to open up Final Draft in case I don't do it right.<BR/><BR/>In my own case I agonized over the logline only to find, as I completed my scriptment, the protagonist wasn't as much of a dink and I had actually grown fond of him enough to spare him from his pre-determined fate, thereby necessitating a change in the logline, which I'm sure has caused the shingles.millar prescotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08963642037866681492noreply@blogger.com